text ↪ un: steve.rogers, dated before the closed door meeting

[fossils]

Everyone's already got their hands full so I'll cut to the chase:

There's room at the table for us at the upcoming meeting between Capt. Childe and the Thessyx representatives. Don't know how many seats or what's going to be discussed, but if you want to be the one representing us, or otherwise got any strong feelings on the matter

Now's the time to speak up.

( ooc: the mods said they'll be RNGing to pick from candidates for the closed door meeting! but if you've put your character forward OOCly already feel free to use this post to make their case ICly, groupchat amongst each other, etc! )

Comments

@jon.snow

[northerndragon]

I will go, if I may, but if I cannot, Daenerys Targaryen should be a part of this parlay.

[OOC note: I am sick and hiatused, and as such, Jon should not be RNGed into the meeting. I’m commenting here mainly because it’s IC to do so, but the rest of this can be handwaved. He would explain that he has experience with this sort of meeting and “has made allies out of enemies before,” but he would also say that if he isn’t able to attend, Daenerys would be a good choice, she’s a queen, etc. I don’t know if Steve would press him for titles, but if he did, the two Jon would deploy are “Lord Commander of the Night’s Watch” and “King in the North,” with an acknowledgment that they don’t mean anything in this setting.]

[fossils]

( OOC: no worries! this post is only for IC discussion, totally optional and I'm cool with handwaving a chat between Steve and Jon, he's mostly looking to hear where people are from and what their skills are, where they're at rn etc etc, he's not officially in charge of anything )

@astarkov

[sunmon]

Oh, good point.
She's nobility, isn't she? She must have all kinds of experience with this kind of thing.

[northerndragon]

She is a queen. She has more than enough experience.

[Though he thinks now that he doesn’t really know who she’s met with at home, or what the outcomes of those meetings were, other than that he has allied with her.

He only knows who she’s conquered.]

[sunmon]

Her country is very different than this planet, isn't it?
Maybe if Queen Daenerys goes, we could send someone with her who can advise on this kind of technology and context.

[northerndragon]

Aye, it is different, and not so different. We would have been out of place on that ship. It isn’t of our time.

We are a little less so now. The wilds are the wilds, even if each has its own dangers.

[sunmon]

Fair enough. And people are always people.

[northerndragon]

Just so. The same wishes and the same fears, even if they stand in different places.

cw: fantasy racial violence

[sunmon]

[ it's hard to agree with that entirely — when no one here seems to fear or desire to experiment on grisha, when no one has looked at her twice for being shu. agreeing with jon would require boiling those sentiments, common in ravka and its neighbors, down further to their core, an empathy that alina can't quite extend to people who want her dead. ]

Is she your queen?
Daenerys.

[northerndragon]

She is my ally. I support her claim to the Iron Throne.

[OOC: because no one has actually told him yet that he bent the knee ¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

[sunmon]

[ that's ... not the same as a yes ??? ]

But you're from the same place. That's all I was really asking.

[ YET SHE STUMBLED UPON SOME DRAMA ]

[northerndragon]

We come from different parts of the same world. The history of our lands is long and bloody, and I’m no maester to write the tales of three or four wars. I will speak of House Targaryen and House Stark another time, if you wish it. Better to speak now of who will meet with the people who hold these lands.

Daenerys has my friendship and my respect. That may not mean much to most of you here, but it does to me.

[Stark… but this is from @ jon.snow, isn’t it?]

[sunmon]

[ young adult brain be like 'filter? i don't know her' ]

If House Stark is yours, then why's your username Jon Snow?

[northerndragon]

Lord Eddard Stark was my father, but his lady wife was not my mother. Snow is a name given in the North to the baseborn children of lords, like me. We cannot have our father’s names, but we can try to be as honorable as anyone who’s trueborn.

[sunmon]

I don't think anyone here is going to check your birth certificate if you take your father's name, you know.

If you were Lady Stark's child, they'd just call you his.

At least, that's what they'd do in Ravka.

So there's no reason to pretend you aren't.

[northerndragon]

[… “birth certificate”?]

A lie is a lie, no matter who is there to see it. There is no longer anyone to stop me from calling myself Stark at home, now, but I won’t do it. And it may mean something to the other children called Snow that it’s the name of their king. Do you know what it is to be raised as a bastard? People think ill of bastard children, even if the child is good, through and through.

You did not know what my name means. Even if I meant to lie, I would have no reason to. Stark and Snow mean nothing to anyone else here.

[sunmon]

Common people aren't called bastards. That's a title for the children of kings and nobles.

I was just an orphan. But I keep my parents' name because it's all I have left of them. If only one of them had been my parent, it wouldn't stop me from wanting that connection to them.

[northerndragon]

Where I come from, any child may be a bastard, but to be given a name like Snow or Stone or Hill, they must have a highborn parent. My name does not make me less my father’s son.

Your parents’ name, is it Starkov?

[sunmon]

[ he misses the point — because of course he does, he's highborn. she only sighs. it just doesn't matter that anyone's a bastard if they're not inheriting anything but a name. but she doesn't expect him to gather that. ]

It is.

@daenerys.targaryen

[dragonwarder]

That is certainly one way to put it.

[sunmon]

How would you prefer I put it?

[dragonwarder]

There are many different kinds of nobility.
But in my lands, there is only one queen.

[sunmon]

Yes, but where I come from, that's the Queen of Ravka.

[ daenerys does NOT want to be associated with the queen of ravka. ]

@daenerys.targaryen

[dragonwarder]

Your sponsorship is appreciated.

[Also expected, but you know--]

[northerndragon]

I could do no less. I wish I could do more.